Like the title says, can you identify this figure, it was in the box of old joes i recently uncovered...

I know he is GI Joe and old but the arms are throwing me off...

It says GI JOE T.M. 1964 Made in Canada on his bum..if that help....

Hi there. I've got the same figure. Mine was also bought in Canada, and it had to be in Montreal but only 1967 or after. Like Barbie if it was a 1964 body, it could have been labelled (c)1964 even for subsequent reissues.

My childhood bodies and bits were scattered to the winds so I can't be sure what he came with, but my guess would be the Mountie. I know I had this figure and I know I had the Mountie, so that makes sense. Also I think GI Joes were still being made in the USA then, so if this one says Made in Canada, I think there's a good chance that it's because he was of local interest like the Mountie?
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i think you are right as i had the Mountie as well, i still have bits and pieces of him although the uniform is a little worse for wear...

Pretty cool looking figure though, and like i said in my other thread, the body design is really well done, tight joints and poses really well. He just can't really sit well do to the hip design...but for 40+ years old...I don't sit well either:wink

 

I had 3 1964 G.I.JOES and I don't recall any of them having those types of elbow and knee joints with the big rivet.......:think

But mine weren't marked Made in Canada.....

Mine were like this:

 

I think that was the whole starting point of the question, how come this GI Joe marked Made in Canada has different arms than usual. I don't think other Canadian-sold GI Joes at that time were marked Made in Canada, so I would likely conclude this was the Mountie. Since CrusaderXXX and I both had this headsculpt and we both had Mounties it seems likely.

Probably then for some $ reason when they made Mounties in Canada they varied the arms from the general US body. The alternate possibility would be that I remember one GI Joe clone that was common in Canada having riveted arms like this -- possibly then a young CrusaderXXX might have swapped those arms to fix a broken GI Joe body? It could help if I found my originals of this figure and of that clone somewhere deep within my basement, but that's a hazardous journey.

Yeah that 1964 GI Joe body was something. More durable and childproof than anything made now, I guess. Versatile as heck. And they made it totally out of nowhere -- not the luxury they have now, of copying standard designs while trying to improve one joint like the elbows or ankles or whatever.
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I collected Vintage Action man and Gi Joe for some years, and i must say i have never seen this type of joint on a vintage Joe.
I also own a Canadian Joe, and his arms are the normal style...the type we all know and love.
Of course the arms are one part which do get swopped around (because it is so easy to break the joining pegs there)....but your "shoulder" socket seems to have the same rivet as the elbow!..strange indeed.

I was going to suggest that the arms may have come from a Pedigree made Tommy Gunn, or a Mintex body, however, unless the shoulders were also changed then this wouldn't be the case.
I am intrigued.

Do the individual parts of the arms have left and right numbers?..such as L7...R6 etc?

I can not see a Hasbro plant in Canada re-styling the arms though..i would suggest they would use the standard joints.
I wish i could give a definitive answer to your query, however, i am totally stumped!!

I will do some digging for you and see if i can find another body with that style of arm joint.
Neil.

EDIT:
The arms must have been "donated" from a vintage 'knock-off' of Gi Joe ....an 11" Mego made Fighting Yank figure.
Here is a link to a photo of the figure Screenshot by Lightshot
As the shoulder sockets are held in place by think elastic bands on these figures, then a transplant is quite easy to do.

 

The arms are from a Mego "fighting yank", the remainder appears to be Hasbro.

 

Thanks Stacy adams, my memory was failing me and driving me crazy. The Mego Fighting Yank is what I was thinking about when I said this:

Probably then for some $ reason when they made Mounties in Canada they varied the arms from the general US body. The alternate possibility would be that I remember one GI Joe clone that was common in Canada having riveted arms like this -- possibly then a young CrusaderXXX might have swapped those arms to fix a broken GI Joe body?

I can verify that I (ok, my parents) would have bought Mego Fighting Yanks in Montreal Canada around the same time (circa 1967) as the GI Joe Mountie with this headsculpt, so the arms swap theory is logical if Crusader XXX has a swapped hybrid of those body types.

On the other hand Wikipedia says that "G.I. Joe figures manufactured in Canada, had two variants on the U.S. production of the first three types. You may also notice that the Canadian version pelvis has an extra ridge immediately above the buttocks. " Don't know what those variants were and I guessed it could be the arm rivets, but now that I remember the specifics of the Mego Fighting Yank, the swap theory is more likely right.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I can tell you I would not have switch the arms out...I was born in 1965 so this figure would have been made and acquired between birth and age 3... I would guess. The link to the picture of the "Yank" is interesting as the arms do look similar but the body on mine is just like the regular Joe body same as the legs. It does have that extra line by the butt.

I asked my dad and brother about it but they have no recollection of us swapping body parts, stating that we would dress and undress them, and throw them off the roof but never did we repair or replace the body or its parts...

So I am at a loss as these are my original joes from my childhood and I have not really done anything to them...

Could it be an early Canadian variant?

In the end a cool figure one I will not give up...my 5 yr old thinks these are super cool and loves the Talkies...

 

Ok one more picture of what is printed on the right bum cheek...



clearly you can see the "made in Canada" ...

again thanks for the help...

 

Isn't it cool to know you were playing with a kitbashed figure, or some kind of unusual variant, when you were 3 years old?
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Well, it's not a 1964 production Joe, or you wouldn't have "Patented 1966" on it......

 

RD registered Design 1964. Patent application 1964. Patent granted 1966 and so it would bear a 1966 mark even possibly decades thereafter (as Barbie does) or until a significant enough redesign for a new application date. It's not like books or movies where you know the year of production, and there's no way to tell from markings. They only ever tell you when this design started. I think this Joe was probably fairly shortly after the 1966 patent but I could be wrong.
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I meant that since it's got a 1966 date on it, it couldn't be one that was made in 1964, is all I'm saying........

 

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Vintage G.I. Joe Markings
1964-1965

U.S.A.
GI JOE T.M.
COPYRIGHT 1964
by HASBRO R
PATENT PENDING
MADE IN U.S.A.

Manufactured from 1965 thru 1965, the markings show that G.I. Joe, the figure's name, was trademarked. Copyrighted in 1964 by Hasbro; the company's registered trademark. The figure's patent was pending. Body was made in the U.S.A.

Vintage GI Joe Markings
1966

GI JOE R
COPYRIGHT 1964
by HASBRO R
PATENT PENDING
MADE IN U.S.A.

Manufactured only in 1966, these markings were different from the 1st issue of 1965 by the T.M. letters being absent in the copyright notice. Now the figures name is G.I. Joe was a registered trademark, copyrighted by Hasbro. The patent is still pending. Body madein the U.S.A.

Vintage G.I. JoeMarkings
(1967-1975)

GIJOE R
COPYRIGHT 1964
by HASBRO R
Pat. No. 3,277,602
MADE IN U.S.A.

Manufactured from 1967 thru 1975, G.I. Joe remains the registered trademark of the figure. Copyrighted in 1964 by Hasbro, the company's registered trademark. There is no problem telling this 1967 Joe from the previous years version. The patent is no longer pending and it now shows a patent number. The body is still made in the U.S.A.

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(1975 -1976)

C HASBRO R
Pat. Pend. Pawt. R.I.

Manufactured from 1975 thru 1976, these unique markings were located on the bottom back of the lifelike bodies type figures torso. Copyrighted in 1975 by HAsbro, the company's registered trademark. The patent was again pending. Body was made in the U.S.A. at Hasbro's Pawtucket Rhode Island Factory.

Vintage G.I. Joe Markings
1960s made in CANADA

CANADA
GI JOE REG. T.M.
COPYRIGHT 1964
by HASBRO R
PATENT PENDING
MADE IN CANADA

Figures made in the 1960s in CANADA. Notice how there is a REG. in front of the T.M. letters.

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1970s made in CANADA

C RD 1964
HASSENFIELD BROS. INC.
PATENTED 1966
MADE IN CANADA

These markings appeared on G.I. Joes made in CANADA in the 1970s. The MADE IN CANADA was sometimes missing from the markings.

Vintage G.I. Joe Markings
GI Nurse

PATENT PENDING
C 1967 BY HASBRO R
MADE IN HONG KONG

Made only in 1967, the above markings belong to the GI Nurse Action Girl. These markings were locatedon the lower back of the torso on every figure. Her patent is pending, she was copyrighted in 1967 by Hasbro the company's registered trademark. The figure and her uniform and accessories were all made in Hong Kong.




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So, that means that crusader1xxx's G.I. Joe body was made in the 1970's.....?

 

The head on this Joe looks to me to be a soft painted head, as opposed to the hard painted head....these were slightly larger heads and quite soft.
I would assume it was made around 1968

By the way fellas, If you ever come across an "Eyeliner Joe" (heavy dark paint around the eyes) with a hard head, slotted shoulders and brass rivets, metal spacer in the knee and pink swirls in the skin tone..i will give you a $10 for it. :whistle

On the other hand, if you ever find this!..http://prntscr.com/14qxow then the price will double top $20. :dancing :dancing
This is the Gi Joe prototype.
Neil.

 

The head could easily have been swapped.....I was asking about the BODY....

And the prototype G.I. Joe (Rocky) was sold in 2003 for over $200,000.....

 

Vintage G.I. Joe Markings
1960s made in CANADA

CANADA
GI JOE REG. T.M.
COPYRIGHT 1964
by HASBRO R
PATENT PENDING
MADE IN CANADA

Figures made in the 1960s in CANADA. Notice how there is a REG. in front of the T.M. letters.

This is what is marked on my body, meaning it was made in the 1960's, which year? I would guess between 1966 to 1969

The head feels hard like a rock but after all these years...who knows...:dunno

 

Your first pic of the rear-end of your figure has the words "Patented 1966" just above "Made In Canada", which would put it in the 1970's according to Azteca's info....unless I'm mistaken....?

 

Well in that case OSP, the head has indeed been swapped..because the flocked hair came about in 1970 i think....i know for sure it did for Action man and the gripping hands in '73

Crusader1, if that head is hard, then that's what it is...as far as i know the gummy heads didn't harden through time.
He just has the look of a "gummy head" to me...they tended to be less glossy than the hard heads.

This is refreshing change isn't it?...having a good discussion about the Grandfather of them all...good old Gi joe.

Thanks for showing these beauties, they will always be my first love in action figures.

Neil.

 

Hey Ulsterman, do you have any reference books on G.I. Joe? I have 4 in total, including "G.I. Joe; The Complete Story of America's Favorite Man of Action" by J. Michlig, with Don Levine having a considerable amount of input:

 

Hey Ulsterman, do you have any reference books on G.I. Joe? I have 4 in total, including G.I. Joe; The Complete Story of America's Favorite Man of Action" by J. Michlig, with Don Levine having a considerable amount of input

Yes indeed OSP, I have three:
Gi Joe The story behind the legend. (a lovely little book which came with the masterpiece boxed figures)
Gi Joe the complete encyclopedia
Gi Joe by James desimone

I also have 7 all about Action man.

Neil.

PS: Here is a thread showing my Vintage collection from a few years ago....the few Gi Joes i owned are further down the thread, along with the rest of my Action man collection.
http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/for...orum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-discussion/49717-some-old-boys.html

 

There is a knock off called GI Jose that came about 1966 and it had arms just like the ones you have on your Joe figure and body parts from Jose can be swapped out on GI Joe body but I would say a fighting Yank arms were used for this figure. I would take the figure to a GI Joe convention and maybe they can tell you for sure or write to the GI Joe collectors club and he can shed better light on this subject..

 

I too have the same 3 that Ulsterman listed, I look through there prior to this posting...

It has been a fun trip down memory lane though...

 

Brought up some more confirmation from my basement. No surprises though. This is my also Canadian bought Joe, from around the same time, or slightly earlier. Pretty sure he was the Mountie. His stamp says "GI Joe Reg TM Copyright 1964 by Hasbro (R) Patent Pending Made in Canada." So when he was made they didn't have the Patent yet but they got it in 1966 as then it's marked on yours. Mine was actually bought at the earliest Christmas 1966, and more likely in 1967. I wasn't in Montreal before then. By that time they had the 1966 patent but I guess that mine was sitting on a shelf from previously.

Both the arms on mine are broken and I think this happened pretty quickly after I got him. That scotch tape on the upper arm is over 40 years old and I see I taped the left arm backwards. The lower arms are cracked as well. This weakness in the arms probably confirms why someone replaced the arms on yours as well.

I couldn't physically locate the Mego Fighting Yank that my parents bought in Montreal at around the same time, but I found a pic of him I took when I was indexing last year. The rivet arms match your arms. He was bought also in Canada and around the same time, so I'm sure he's the second half of your recipe.





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