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its going bye bye, if your running this what are some suggestions, i may need a new computer.
 

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It's my understanding that Windows 8 is essentially Windows 7 with touchscreen tech added.

No?
 

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Upgrade to Windows 7, but don't upgrade to Windows 8/8.1.

There are some online articles as to Microsoft implementing some revisions to 8.1 to make it more like Windows 7 in terms of a start menu configuration.

Just upgrade to Windows 7 (still available).

If $ is not an issue, then consider a Macintosh.
 

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Go with Windows 7, my sister has Windows 8 laptop, she totally hates it.
Even computer salesmen don't like Windows 8.
 

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Upgrade to Windows 7, but don't upgrade to Windows 8/8.1.

There are some online articles as to Microsoft implementing some revisions to 8.1 to make it more like Windows 7 in terms of a start menu configuration.

Just upgrade to Windows 7 (still available).

If $ is not an issue, then consider a Macintosh.
They've done it already.
 

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Intercept,Engage,Destroy
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Looks like 95% of bank ATMs will be affected?
 

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I would recommend Linux Mint. It's free, safe and very like a mix of windows xp/7. I've been running it for about a year now and I love it.
http://www.linuxmint.com/
This. ^

I will echo the others and recommend Windows 7 (do not get any "Home" edition though... they're garbage) if you absolutely need Windows for some application. Other than that, Linux Mint or Ubuntu Linux are both great, secure, and free alternatives.
 

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Windows XP is a good, solid dependable OS and just because MS are going to stop supporting it (i.e. offering upgrades and updated or new drivers) it does mean that the OS is going to disappear overnight. Eventually, you will find that you can't get a driver to work with a new piece of hardware, like a printer or scanner, but that comes down to the manufacturer of the hardware not Microsoft. If the hardware manufacturer still think's there's marketshare for his product on XP he'll release a driver with his hardware, albeit a fairly generic driver but at least one that will allow it to be used.

Re the banks / ATM's, they're not going to die just because Microsoft has stopped supporting the OS. They have huge support infrastructure's and what they run on this OS is so specialised anyway that they don't really touch MS for support.

When I was still in the IT business we used to have a little side-project where we provided a small software package to local Government agencies to allow them to extract data from big ol' mainframes (i.e. those room-filling, valve powered, big-iron beasts of the 60's and 70's) so they could get it into Excel spreadsheets for use on the PC. We passed that bit of software on to several local Govt agencies when we got too the point where it was not financially viable for us and we trained their guys to support it. That was about 15 - 20 years ago. Imagine my surprise when about two years ago I met a guy who'd somehow got his hands on the code for our old software app and was running a little business offering it for sale to other outfits still using those aged mainframes. Old tech really does hang around for a very, very long time and there's always some guy, somewhere, who supports it!

However, all that said. If you do need to upgrade then follow everyone's advice and opt for Windows 7, avoid Windoze 8 like the plague. I've just bought my son a new notebook for his college work and it came with Windows 8.0 on it, just getting it to run Windows Update to install the necessary upgrades, to allow it to be upgraded to Windows 8.1, took me several days and much web searching! And I know what I'm doing when it comes to these things! The damn thing kept barfing on me and resetting the system back to the default state it arrived in. In the end I had to apply 87 out of 91 patches, manually and individually. Only then could I get the damn this to actually find Windows 8.1 in the online store where they'd put it, rather than on Windows upgrade where all the other upgrades are; I mean WTF is up with that! Even compared to every other dog-eared OS Microsoft ever released Windoze 8.0 was a complete b1tch to work with!

I had a reputation for hating MS products when I was in the business and every time a new MS Operating System hit the market the 'kids' would get all "wow, we've got to have it" and my standard response to them was always the same..."Same Dog, different fleas!" And so it is with Windows 8, and it has fleas aplenty! Microsoft couldn't write an operating system to save their own asses, that's a company that has never innovated in it's entire history, it merely buys in other peoples innovation and then begins a long, slow process of destroying that innovation! But, all that said, XP / Windows 7 are stable and reliable...now!

Apple are another company that can't write software, they just design products that look fabulous but will give you more grief in the long run! My Iphone had a software update and now it drops the Wireless in my house if I so much as look at it. The Internet forums are busy with people complaining about it but Apple never, ever claim ownership of these problems or even acknowledge their existence. Eventually a new update will arrive which will partially fix the problem and after about three updates the problem will have disappeared but in all likelihood in that time it'll have been replaced by several other bugs. In the meantime, in a strategy learned from Microsoft, Apple create market churn by releasing newer versions of their products that are not properly finished and are beta tested on the end users. This process obsoletes the previous version of the product just at that eventual point when they have become stable, reliable products. Bonkers really, but the 'oh, wow, neato brigade' of early adopters drives this trend and the membership of this group seems to grow in number every year, probably a corollary to Moore's Law of computing power!

The best OS on the market for PC's has got to be Linux BUT if you've been on Windoze all your life then the learning curve for it can be steep. However, the rewards are huge once you've mastered it! The solidity of Linux is one of the reason's it has such a huge penetration in terms of server platforms for very, very many web based services!
 

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It's my understanding that Windows 8 is essentially Windows 7 with touchscreen tech added.
All versions of Windows are essentially the old version with a new GUI bolted on to make it look snazzy. Drill down and you'll find the old familiar stuff, including DOS! It's always the new "look at me and ignore the man behind the curtain GUI" that buggers everything up and makes the new OS unusable. As soon as they get a handle on what it was they were trying to do in the first place and actually get it working satisfactorily they'll replace it with something else and the whole sorry process will start over again! End users are getting tired of this nonsense hence the outraged claims to have the Start button back again (something they stole from IBM's OS Warp by the way).

And they've only half met that clamour for the Start button in 8.1, they haven't quite brought it back. Not completely and not the way that everyone remembers it. However, there are replacements available on the Web and some of them even enhance the Start button adding in all the things that MS either left out or were not smart enough to implement. Still they made a heck of a lot of money selling ropey products to unsuspecting users who never truly understood that the problem wasn't their own understanding of the technology but the ropey implementation. Very much proves the old Adage that "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed trickster is King"
 
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