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These are my favorite Phicen/TBLeague bodies so far, all suntan skin tone, from left to right: S12D, S17B, S23B, 21B, S29B, S33B.

S12, S17B, 23B, and S21B all have the same height, with S29B is the shortest and S33 is the tallest, both within half an inch taller or shorter than the rest at 10.25 inches tall.


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You can find that Kristen Stewart head sculpt with the following name "Estartek XY001B" on AliExpress, Ebay sellers won't bother to add the item model #, only preferenced as "American female head sculpt."

Also, I can't find the model number of the 2nd head sculpt. Let me know if you guys know which one is it.

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Put these fine mesh stocking on my Phicen with seamless feet for 2-3 years and now they're fused together, stock & skin are now one. :urp
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Left a black jumpsuit on this body a while back. Both arms are now stained. Well, at least it's not the body! :dizzy
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Oh, and finally, just some casual skin tearing.
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Thanks for sharing the comparisons! I'm really glad you included the s17b this time as well. ;D I tend to use the petite s25b quite a lot since I mainly work on characters of smaller stature, so I don't actually have all that many of the 'normal' size bodies. But I am looking to get a few more for some taller/older characters, but I'm still vacillating which ones will suit them best. So the comparison from all angles is very much appreciated.

Am I right in thinking that the s23b has a much slimmer neck and less broad shoulders than the s12d? I was trying to use s12d for a figure, cause the wide hips were better suited for that character, but some of the outfit pieces I tried on it did not really work well with the rather thick neck and broad shoulders, so I've been looking for an alternative. I don't usually like the s23b, cause I find the exaggerated/cartoonish thigh muscles to be really off-putting, but the upper body on it is nice, and that area being a bit slimmer and more streamlined than the s12d would be a benefit in this instance.
 

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Thanks for sharing the comparisons! I'm really glad you included the s17b this time as well. ;D I tend to use the petite s25b quite a lot since I mainly work on characters of smaller stature, so I don't actually have all that many of the 'normal' size bodies. But I am looking to get a few more for some taller/older characters, but I'm still vacillating which ones will suit them best. So the comparison from all angles is very much appreciated.

Am I right in thinking that the s23b has a much slimmer neck and less broad shoulders than the s12d? I was trying to use s12d for a figure, cause the wide hips were better suited for that character, but some of the outfit pieces I tried on it did not really work well with the rather thick neck and broad shoulders, so I've been looking for an alternative. I don't usually like the s23b, cause I find the exaggerated/cartoonish thigh muscles to be really off-putting, but the upper body on it is nice, and that area being a bit slimmer and more streamlined than the s12d would be a benefit in this instance.
yes, the S23B does have a slightly smaller neck, but as you said larger thighs. personally the 23B is my go to because i love the musculature.
 

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Thanks, Cobratrooper! I do like the upper body on the s23b, as it works well for certain more athletic characters, but those thighs just look so unrealistic and like a body-builder or comic book character to me. I prefer more overtly feminine/womanly physique. But I'd be willing to consider it in this case, especially since the legs on this figure would be covered up.
 

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yes, the S23B does have a slightly smaller neck, but as you said larger thighs. personally the 23B is my go to because i love the musculature.
Me too, S23B is my overall favorite. It works great for many types of kitbashing. If I'm going to recommend someone a Phicen/TBLeague, S23B would be it. For normal uses, S17B would be a better choice since it is easier to put on clothes.
 

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I think what turned me off both the s21b and the s23b was how often they were used for certain of the tbleague boxed figures... I kept seeing them in those contexts, so in my mind they were always associated with a very over the top type of look, and one that I felt didn't apply to the characters I was working on. But I really do like the upper body on the s23b, enough that I might try to overlook my issues with the too-small @ss and [imo, very ugly] comic book muscle thighs.
 

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I think what turned me off both the s21b and the s23b was how often they were used for certain of the tbleague boxed figures... I kept seeing them in those contexts, so in my mind they were always associated with a very over the top type of look, and one that I felt didn't apply to the characters I was working on. But I really do like the upper body on the s23b, enough that I might try to overlook my issues with the too-small @ss and [imo, very ugly] comic book muscle thighs.
By what you're saying, I think you would like the latest S33A (PALE) & S33B(SUNTAN) bodies from TBLeague. They have great butts, medium chest, still easy to put clothes on, and really not that tall like people might suggest. Oh and smaller shoulder.
 
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