nice, but Pale skin or Tan?
the guns look very plastic though

 

Wow!! :drool I shall add this to wishlist.

the guns look very plastic though

Phicen aren't good with guns, since their forte are sexy girls. Best is to get weapons from elsewhere to replace Phicen's default weapons.

 

http://www.phicen.com/index.php?c=msg&id=209&

 

I like the face.Are Phicen pretty sturdy now?

 

that question is hard to answer, but in my own opinion they are sturdy enough to be posed around and if you check at mature section, you can see crazy poses can be done with it, but personally I find the hip's side to side movement is super scary (the sound and feeling) other than that v4 is a nice version

 

dem curvesss!!!:wideyes

 

Really? I had't even noticed them :drool

 

Head sculpt looks like Ziva from NCIS.

 

Really???:dunce :doh

 

So site staff is implying a member of this site is a dunce for posting an opinion? Really???

 

Dem boobs are too big. Any idea who this is supposed to be, or is it just an original creation?

 

her half open top gave false illusion about the size of her boobs, it is not that big.
Her head reminds me a little of RE3 Jill Valentine. but after a second look, her mouth is either too high/ too close to her nostrils, or her nose is a tad too long.

I see that since TangWei head and the stainlesssteel body's head and this one, their sculpts although are generally nice, started to have prominent noses (long, flares out to a wide nostrils and bulbous tip) I hope this style of the sculptor won't get overboard, hopefully they tone down the nose a little.

 

I would wait for the final product before making the decision to buy or not, Phicen has a record of delivering things totally different from their promo pics.

 

Ive grown out of the Cy girls era a long time ago, so will pass. Twin holsters are useful though

 

cool looking figure, but an easy pass for me...

 

MSRP is tentatively around $125.00 USD.

Shop around. I'm certain one can find better pricing.

 

I like the head. Rest of the figure is zzzzz. Might get one and dump the gear on ebay.

 

The poses seem unnatural the clothing seems so stiff. I am not too keen on this type of costume.

 

After completing a bash using the large breast Phicen Body I must admit aside from that nerve racking snap crackle and popping with ever move of the limbs, I do love the way they look. May be a bit of a challenge to Clothe her, the top any way. But once you get that zipper up or button fastened, The end result is well worth the effort. I sat looking at mine after having a few beers to celebrate the completion..., I was convinced after the 4th one:dizzy were she real I'd like to date her... LOL LOL :bag

 

I sat looking at mine after having a few beers to celebrate the completion..., I was convinced after the 4th one:dizzy were she real I'd like to date her... LOL LOL :bag

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TMI . . .

DAMN . . . this is getting too <CENSORED>ing weird . . . even for "me".

 

lol

didn't realize two smiles could cause such a stir...and yes, I am talking about the figure...sorry for any confusion I might have cause...

The reality is that this figure has been done over and over, hence the dunce...especially when there are sooooo many other figures that could be done...like Nina & schoolmiss both of these are a step in the right direction...this is a step backwards for me...kind of like they had left over fabric and said...hay, what do you want to do with all the fabric left over from joanna....

http://www.gijoeelite.com/f_itemPart.asp?strPart=GIPH-PLMB201215

 

oh come on this is different, this is more like Full Armed Race Queen/ Umbrella Girl, a fresh idea!!!

 

Eh, I'll pass. Headsculpt is just OK and none of the gear is that special.

 

after li bing-bing & tang wei
now phicen making someone who looked a little like fan bing-bing

 

the boots are very nice, has that engraved/stamped motive thingy like their Selene's leather jacket.

btw

 

I can kinda see Ziva in the face in some of the poses, but it strikes me she looks a bit more like Rose from 2 and a Half Men.

Rose from 2 and a Half Men

http://twohalfmen.wikia.com/wiki/Rose

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ipad&va=rose+from+2+and+a+half+men

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ipad&va=rose+from+2+and+a+half+men

Been wanting to try a more high end femme figure, but have read a lot of horror stories about fragile joints, melting plastic, rotting clothing, the list goes on.

So, beyond the tastes of body style and head options, is this brand a figure a good solid one, more so the one with the stainless steel skeletal inner?

 

Been wanting to try a more high end femme figure, but have read a lot of horror stories about fragile joints, melting plastic, rotting clothing, the list goes on.

So, beyond the tastes of body style and head options, is this brand a figure a good solid one, more so the one with the stainless steel skeletal inner?

Hmm. In reverse order of the issues you're asking about:

- ROTTING CLOTHING: Vinyl will decay over time, especially when exposed to heat or light. It's chemistry. I have some original Cy Girls that have been on display since unboxing them in the early 2000's with intact outfits, though I have others that I had to replace the outfit.

- MELTING PLASTIC: I've never heard this one before. Short of horrible accidents with soldering irons, I can't think how you'd melt any of the seamless bodies in the market.

- FRAGILE JOINTS: Semi-rant coming. I will say that you have to be careful in posing a Phicen (or any of the female seamless bodies), and there are lots of reports of hip and elbow joints breaking. If you look at a Phicen skeleton, the hip joint is not thick. It's a question of physics: unless your hands are right up against the joint, it's easy to apply a lot more pressure than the joint can handle (and it's the only joint I've ever broken, which has happened to me twice). The stiffness of the ratchet and the loud cracking noise it makes as you move it doesn't help. The elbow is challenging because it can be hard to find, and therefore easy to try to move in the wrong direction (especially if you interpret resistance as requiring more force). But I take issue with calling them "fragile." These are v2 Phicens, which lots of people reported breaking:


Phicen Gymnastics by edwick, on Flickr


Classic Laura Composite by edwick, on Flickr

These are v3's, which have the improved elbow design:


ACI FN Browning 1900 Pistol by edwick, on Flickr


Phicen "Hot Toys Tan" Seamless Medium-Bust Body by edwick, on Flickr

These are v4's, which have the silicone skin:


Jungle Queen Redhead Variant by edwicks_toybox, on Flickr


Lady Lumberjack by edwicks_toybox, on Flickr

None of the above needed stands or assistance. If you click any of the above and prowl through my Flickr albums, you'll find lots more. I don't think Phicens are fragile, but I'll be the first to warn you that you have to be careful when posing them. There's a difference.

More broadly, when Phicen gets stuff right they do quite well, IMO. What they get wrong is that their plastic work is average (better than Very Hot, mostly on par with DML, well below Soldier Story or Playhouse) and I think their fashion sense is awful -- other than their early Lara Croft imitations, the best figures they did were the ones that Sithlord MacGyver co-designed with them. But if it's what you want, I don't think you'll find much to complain about quality-wise.

I can't speak to the other female seamless bodies on the market because I don't own any of them. Can't see paying $120+ for a body with no head and non-replaceable hands and feet.

EDIT: Phicen also has a nasty habit of shipping headsculpts radically different than the prototype photos. They're not usually my favorite headsculpts anyway but if your reaction is, "I want the head," you're better off waiting for in-hand photos.

 

if they ditch all the guns and replace it with an umbrella and have the costume sewn with more interesting colors and with racing team name on it and put on several different heads on and we have some interesting motor show/ race queens series...

 

Thank you for the most detailed answer and insight on this series of figure.

The melting issue is one of past experience with other figures, where a softer plastic or compound is in constant contact with certain types of harder plastic or polymers, where a chemical reaction takes place, and one or both items in contact breakdown, sometimes ruined for good, as once the process has started, there is no stopping it from spreading throughout the infected pieces.

As silicone is used in some bakeware, yet stays flexible and can take several washings, and doesn't seem to breakdown when tossed in with other cookware in storage, perhaps it behaves better with other stuff that is used within this hobby setting. A stainless steel core under a properly cured silicone skin would at the surface seem like a long lasting combination, but I don't know yet what happens say if you set up one of these figures with certain clothing and items which stay in long time contact for weeks, months, or years, as that happens with some items that get put on shelf display, like in a museum case.

I do like the way the skin on these figures "moves", in how it compresses to create the look of skin folds and muscle bulges, or creates little hollows and stretch marks.

 

The melting issue is one of past experience with other figures, where a softer plastic or compound is in constant contact with certain types of harder plastic or polymers, where a chemical reaction takes place, and one or both items in contact breakdown, sometimes ruined for good, as once the process has started, there is no stopping it from spreading throughout the infected pieces.

Ah, that problem. Best I know, this hasn't affected Phicens though in theory there's no reason I can think of that completely rules it out. I'd think you'd have to take the same precautions as you would with any jointed body. There are stories about cheaper clothing staining them, though.

I swear I was really careful with my pale 04, but she is now broken. The joint that allows her back to bend side to side no longer clicks and is loose so it wont hold its position. I can no longer pose her like in this picture. How do you explain that one Edwick and all ? The pivot in her upper arm has also loosened so that it will barely hold a pose.

I think my next big project is going to be a photo series on how to pose a Phicen, which may end up becoming a script/storyboard for my much-threatened video. I'm sorry to hear that you've got a broken one now, but the most I can offer is that you have the potential for breakage anywhere you see thin plastic on the skeleton:

Phicen Skeleton Image Reference by edwick, on Flickr

To my mind, this means the shoulder, the rib cage, and the hips are the most prone to breakage. To me, safe posing of a Phicen boils down to the difference between force and leverage. Picking up a guy and throwing him on the ground hard enough to hurt him requires tremendous strength and force. Doing it with a judo shoulder throw is easy because it's not about applying force but applying leverage. You need to be a power lifter bigger and much stronger than the guy you're throwing to be successful at throwing him, but you can be 2/3rds the size or weight to succeed with a shoulder throw.

Proper leverage on a Phicen is about getting as close to the joint you want to move as possible and supporting that joint on both sides. Do that and you don't need much more force to pose it than a regular jointed figure (except the hips, which are much stiffer than a regular jointed body). If you're off, you're applying leverage directly on the joint and sooner or later, it's going to break. If you're trying to pose a Phicen and you hit resistance, STOP. It does not mean you need to apply more force or heat up the joint; if you do, you're going to break something. Resistance means you need to shuffle your grip a bit and get better leverage. If you don't get that balance right, honestly I don't think the metal skeleton in the upcoming body is going to help one bit. It just means you're going to get bent metal instead of broken plastic.

I did not include the elbow in the joints that are prone to breaking because I still think that's about inadvertently pushing the joint in the wrong direction. If it makes you feel better, I still get nervous sometimes when I'm trying to pose an elbow. The body gives more feedback on that starting with the v3's but still not enough, IMO.

The exception is the rotation of the bicep joint. I think what's happening there is that there are teeth that hold that joint in place, and if you move that joint too fast, you strip the teeth and lose the ratchet lock. I've done it a few times, and have one body I experiment with where I want to try a repair. Haven't gotten to try that yet, but it comes down to whether you can use rubber cement to fix a slice in the skin.

Despite their marketing, the v4 is the exact same skeleton as on the earlier Phicens. The enhanced posing ability is just that the silicone skin is thinner and deforms more easily IMO.

 

I swear I was really careful with my pale 04, but she is now broken. The joint that allows her back to bend side to side no longer clicks and is loose so it wont hold its position. I can no longer pose her like in this picture. How do you explain that one Edwick and all ? The pivot in her upper arm has also loosened so that it will barely hold a pose. I think I may have changed the pose of this figure less than a dozen times, which doesnt equate to very durable in my book. I dont think I will be buying anymore Phicens until the metal skeleton has been proven.

 

Ok, first off I am not upset...I don't get upset over figures, I have over 500 figures in my collection so if a new one comes up I don't like, I have plenty that I own that i do.

Second, I consider myself a female figure collector, which means I started into this hobby with female figures (Cy Girl) and have a large collection of them. I have more WWII now but I digress...so basicly i have seen/owned pretty much all of them (maybe not at the same time) including the rare Aska figure so I think I have a pretty good handle on female figures...:wink

What I am saying here is that Phicen has shown it can do things right and cool with out having to duplicate a figure. This one is so similar to Joanna I call it lame on their part.

But everyone is intited to their opinion and if this is one you like, great...it's just not for me.

Now as a mod here on the forum, I will have to ask you all to play nice..ok..no offense taken by anyone here...lets just carry on now....:thumb

 

Nice looking figure, I might get this one for parts? Not crazy about the dress though, I wonder if it comes off intact? I can definitely could use the boots for a current project.

 

Nice looking figure, I might get this one for parts? Not crazy about the dress though, I wonder if it comes off? I can definitely could use the boots for a current project.

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Back in the day . . .

That used to be a common question that didn't get any funny looks let alone raise an eyebrow.