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Given the current state of things in the hobby, the world, and here on OSW, I can see how it might be hard to maintain a "Mr. Happy Pants" level of enthusiasm, but that doesn't mean it's no holds-barred.

There's been a decided increase in negative posting, insulting remarks, and argument well outside the bounds of thread subjects. Rather than contact the major players, consider this post a general warning.

Staff's primary function is not to clean up messes. From this point, individuals who insist on improper behavior aboard, will receive notification and time down, simultaneously.

Not looking for a Care Bears hug fest, just the place back to the hobby. The rest, that belongs somewhere else.
 

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I've noticed a lot of negative comments on virtually all Hot Toys related threads. The remarks are not always about the figure itself, but Hot Toys in general and the people who buy them. I can understand the complaints about pricing and the poor value of some releases (e.g. Quicksilver), especially when other manufacturers can bring out figures with a ton of gear and weapons at half the price. Remarks aimed at HT themselves are acceptable as it's rare for them to take much notice of forums anyway, and it's to let them know that collectors do have a limit.

Remarks aimed at fellow collectors (even though specific individuals are not targeted) are another story. People can have grievances with HT for whatever reason, but to start calling other members names because they buy HT's products is not acceptable. A quick scan of any of the Iron Man threads will bring up words like fanboys, gullible, fools with more money than sense, cultists, whores, and my personal favourite quote (i won't say who said it):

"HT attracted more "collectors" or simply "buyers" who don't necessarily "comprehend" the 1:6 hobby for the most part (i.e. @ $ $ holes who should not be in the 1:6 hobby, but brought $ into the hobby)."

I've been on this forum since 2011, checking in at least once a day, but for the last 6 months, it's like once a month and i don't even bother to login to post. If you look at some of my threads, they are scratchbuilds, kitbashes, modifications, fixes or reviews. I would say i'm as well qualified as anyone else to be in the 1/6 hobby, but to read those kinds of comments, makes me wonder why i would want to be part of it.

A lot of my threads are tutorials for mods or repairs (to save money), but clearly that is not relevant. My HT collection automatically makes me an @ $ $ hole who should not be in the hobby.
 

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I agree. We're all in this hobby to have fun and I think we're all on this forum to make friends with people that enjoy the 1:6 addiction.

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Here's to keeping all about the hobby, HOORAY!
 

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I agree Pukingdog. If not Happy Pants, everyone should be more respectful, meaning that if I don't like or agree with something, either be quiet or say it in a way that doesn't upset others.
 

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Hopefully, my behavior here hasn't been negative in any way; if it has been, then I humbly apologize. I agree this needs to be about the hobby and not about personal issues, and that things can heat up here quite quickly.

I'm hoping we can get back to an enjoyable level with the forums. :)
 

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I agree. We're all in this hobby to have fun and I think we're all on this forum to make friends with people that enjoy the 1:6 addiction.

Mark
This!
 

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I do try to be mindful of what I say. but sometimes no matter how you say it someone feelings get hurt. if we can't agree to disagree then I think we are being immature. no one is going to share the same opinion all the time but sometimes people are hurt buy such little things that I wonder sometimes are their some children here posing as adults. I read my comments over and try to assure that I am responding in a respectful manner,but if by some reason they decide to give me time out or kick me off the board all together then it is what is. I don't think this have to be a mutual admiration society just show respect to one another. personally I don't mind and even like a good debate as long as it doesn't get personal.
 

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You could be missing the point, masamune. Disagreeing isn't the issue. Getting personal and insulting is the issue. That goes for everybody.

"I don't like this figure because (insert legit reasons here)" - no problem.

"I don't like this figure because of your mom..." - problem.
 

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As long as I can remember, I don't believe anyone ever posted about disliking a figure because of a member's mother.

I'm just saying to add some levity.

It's like going to a doctor's office and being told you have a month to live and you demand a second opinion. The doctor then tells you that you're ugly.
 

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not missing the point I get it, if you read my post I am basically saying what you guys are saying. I still think sometime we are just a little too sensitive to be a board of mostly men. and I mean that as no disrespect to women. I don't want it to get where members are too afraid to disagree because they think we may take it as a sign of disrespect. personally I like for those who don't like something to feel free to speak out, do not want to read a bunch of how great that is, or that is the greatest thing since slice bread. I like to read honest feed back and the reason why people feel a certain way whether I agree with or not. I have had members say things to me that others would be in a uproar. I just laugh and sometimes I respond with a witty reply or I might not at all. I think everyone here are adults and we should have the right to disagree and express that disagreement and like you said as long as it does not get personal.
 

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I agree that generally speaking out freely (good or bad) is a healthy thing but where a disagreement results it's as much "how you say it" as what you say.

In a discussion between members I think "I disagree with you about this specific fact" is fine; "You're wrong" is borderline and contextual; and ""You're stupid and you don't know what you're talking about" is totally unacceptable -- also, it's unnecessary.

I've also got to say that I respectfully disagree with Marine boy. I think being critical or sarcastic on groups or trends like "HT fanboys" is totally in line, so long as someone really is talking about a wordwide trend among collectors or whatever, and not making a disguised cheap shot about someone else's post, or taking a shot at specific people disguised as a critique about overall trends.
 

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I agree that generally speaking out freely (good or bad) is a healthy thing but where a disagreement results it's as much "how you say it" as what you say.

In a discussion between members I think "I disagree with you about this specific fact" is fine; "You're wrong" is borderline and contextual; and ""You're stupid and you don't know what you're talking about" is totally unacceptable -- also, it's unnecessary.

I've also got to say that I respectfully disagree with Marine boy. I think being critical or sarcastic on groups or trends like "HT fanboys" is totally in line, so long as someone really is talking about a wordwide trend among collectors or whatever, and not making a disguised cheap shot about someone else's post, or taking a shot at specific people disguised as a critique about overall trends.
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Seriously speaking . . .

I understand what Marine boy is saying. I really do.

I posted a very biting critique/damnation of HT collectors being overzealous within the hobby community when it comes to collecting and defending anything/everything by HT. I did so based on my experiences with HT collectors of the extreme kind and myself being an overzealous collector/defender of a particular brand once.

My commentary of HT was not directed at Marine boy or other collectors like him because I don't seev/view him as the the HT fanatical type, etc. in any way.

However, he felt and took it as such.

It's like when there are post/replies criticizing/ridiculing anyone who collects and enjoys 1:6 female figures dressed provocatively, sexy, armed to the teeth with guns, etc. We're directly or indirectly referred to as being "pervs" and then some.

In the past, such comments may have irked me, but why bother? I guess a bit more thick skin than others (at times) and just didn't think about. Of course, that may not hold true for others.

Marine boy quoted me and that's fine. My post was not aimed at him personally in any way, but the felt otherwise for his reasons.

Discretion is the better part of valor, so I sent an apology to Marine boy. It's his call to accept it, reject it, or ignore it. I acknowledged and replied to his grievance because he felt wronged/insulted apparently.
 

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Seriously speaking . . .

I understand what Marine boy is saying. I really do.

I posted a very biting critique/damnation of HT collectors being overzealous within the hobby community when it comes to collecting and defending anything/everything by HT. I did so based on my experiences with HT collectors of the extreme kind and myself being an overzealous collector/defender of a particular brand once.

My commentary of HT was not directed at Marine boy or other collectors like him because I don't seev/view him as the the HT fanatical type, etc. in any way.

However, he felt and took it as such.

It's like when there are post/replies criticizing/ridiculing anyone who collects and enjoys 1:6 female figures dressed provocatively, sexy, armed to the teeth with guns, etc. We're directly or indirectly referred to as being "pervs" and then some.

In the past, such comments may have irked me, but why bother? I guess a bit more thick skin than others (at times) and just didn't think about. Of course, that may not hold true for others.

Marine boy quoted me and that's fine. My post was not aimed at him personally in any way, but the felt otherwise for his reasons.

Discretion is the better part of valor, so I sent an apology to Marine boy. It's his call to accept it, reject it, or ignore it. I acknowledged and replied to his grievance because he felt wronged/insulted apparently.
Didn't realize there was a specific exchange behind Marine boy's comments, haven't read it. I stand by my general point though. I do not support the restriction that you can't say anything negative about any collectors or groups of collectors, period. I think it's all in "how you say it." And I think it's necessary to be able to propose things like "All the people who accept substandard quality from [HT/Sideshow/Asmus/Big Chief etc] are hurting the hobby..." again, so long as it's not a disguised shot at any particular person.

 

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Be nice.
No name-calling/mother-insulting.
Have thick skin.
Argue the items, the companies, the buying/selling patterns, the details.
Do NOT argue mental, physical or financial ability's of other members.

But this is all just my opinion. :D
 
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