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I'm looking to make a squad of MVD operators, but I have a few snags...

1. besides the gear that came with falcon what else do they use? I know the VSS sniper rifle is used.

2. Can anyone find any pictures, I've searched forever and nothing came up, BBI had to of based falcon off of some pic or something.

3. Lastly what sidearms and holsters do they use, I dont know if the P-93 is a sidearm or a main weapon, but I know for sure that they do use handguns.

4. How many operators are on a squad.

Thanks for your time, mabye someone had better luck at finding pics and info.
 

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Well, BBi based Falcon on Center Mass's ideas and knowledge on the subject. CM is a banned member here, but he does have a wealth of knowledge about the Russian military. Try and track him down.
 

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S.A.S.... Just as UmpaLumpa said ,CenterMass was The MAIN consultant on that figure and basically the main reason it was even brought to fruition (conceptually) . HE provided all of the information and visual reference to BBI .
So far , I have not seen or encountered anyone here on OSW who was or is more knowledgable regarding this topic (modern Russian Military) .
I could be wrong .... But , never seen it .....
I would say that 90% of the my reference for my Russian Figs has come from CM.

Ahhhh ....1/6 politics .


Some people take figures waaaaay tooo seriously .

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I'm going to step off-topic (MVD weapons, equipment, and organization) for a moment, and address the subject of Centermass, "politics", and taking things way to seriously. After that, I believe that this thread should go back on course. I do this of my own volition, because sometimes just cutting thru the bull****, clears things faster.

Nate (Centermass) is indeed very knowledgeable on Russian and related subjects, and was apparently the driving force behind bbi's Krechet. That, IMO, makes his circumstances only that more tragic. All personal opinions aside (mine and others), he breached OSW rules enough times to merit banning. That is a simple, concrete fact. He was banned for cause, not for politics or personal satisfaction by any admin here. As for taking things too seriously, well Nate felt that his word here was of a sufficiently serious importance to justify his abuse of other members, to the point that he crossed the line.

Things have been said in this thread, which tripped triggers and it needs to end here and now. S.A.S., I believe that Umpa Lumpa offered you an honest, and unbiased answer, and that should have sufficed.
Some here may attempt to give what resources or information they have, to help with your request. You of course can look elsewhere. Whose is better, if that is a question, will be up to you. I believe that such competitions contravene the spirit of this forum (1:1), and deny it's purpose. And that is what brought us to this pretty pass we find ourselves in.

So why don't we get back to the business of having some fun, and spreading some knowledge. There are more than enough places one can go for conflict.

And to you S.A.S., mes regrets, and I hope you find your answers.

Mike
 

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Hmmm... It seems difficult to come up with any good hard reference for the subject. If its that hard to find information, whats it going to be like to find the gear and weapons needed, I think I'm going to try another topic to work on, something that I can find the pieces to. Mabye SDU, SAS, GIGN(although I havent found any GIGN figures exept that of Mediacom's) or something like them
 

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For help on the SDU, look no further than our very own Cylopswc (the SDU King), DML has made a pantload of SDU figures so there should be no shortage of gear for them.
 

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S.A.S, Hey I know these might not be of much use to you but you never know . I had spoken with CM quite a few times during his contact with BBi on the Kretchet fig and he had given me alot of his reference links which I have on my comp at home. Unfortunately I will not be there for another 2 months so i will just post what I can to help you out.

Russian combat gear and clothing
http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/c-wear_summer.htm

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/

http://www.russiancombatgear.com/lbv.php

Russian Weapons
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/

http://www.sinopa.ee/sor/bo001/bo002/bo002.htm

Great info sites
http://www.milparade.com/
I think you have to be a member now of Mil Parade but it was one of CM's favorites

http://sovietarmy.com/

http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/Russia/
great articles but unfortunately Kondor has nothing yet

http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/
Awesome site with many pics and alot of useful info and links although I have not found anything specific to units

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5954
info from a former russian spets recon ooperator on his tour to chechnya typical militaryphotos cock fights to weed through but lots of good info

and for an easy way to find Centermass just drop by his old stomping grounds http://pub82.ezboard.com/bshaolinshamocustomsordercenter
be prepared to take a beating at times and dont go if you get offended easily becuase they get a little rough and ornery over there

Hope I was able to help you out :thumb
 

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I'm sure we have others here at the OSW who are just as knowlegable if not more so when it comes to Russian SF.
Nothing to do with "Politics" just trying to help out.
 
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