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Hello again, my friends. One of the things I like about this hobby is that I always learn something new when I am making a figure. This bash was no different.

Here are some facts about US military chaplains: Even though catholics make up the largest religious base of military personnel in Afghanistan and Iraq, there are fewer catholic chaplains than any other represented religion. At one point, there was one catholic Chaplain for 20,000 soldiers in Iraq.

Chaplains serve the spiritual needs of any religion, but mass is reserved for people from their own denomination. So you could have a Muslim or Buddist chaplain provide counseling to a Baptist soldier.

Chaplains are non-combatants, no rifle or pistols. So each chaplain is assigned a "chaplains assistant" to act as a body guard, all day, every day.

In watching "Generation Kill" on HBO, I think chaplains got a bad rap in one of the episodes. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who volunteers to go over to a war zone (unarmed) to provide spiritual comfort to our troops, is ok in my book.

Anyway, enough blabber. Sorry if I wrote too much. This figure is a Marine Catholic Chaplain. Barrack Sgt. body, with the Pope's head, repainted with acrylics and pastels. DML uniform (I think) weathered. Hot Toys beets. Scratch made bible.

As always, thanks for looking. Comment/criticisms always welcomed.

Doug









 

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I have to say that I think that this is one of the most original and interesting bashes I have seen on here. I know that their will be some that are upset about either the religious theme, or the fact that he is not armed/kitted out to the teeth- but I think that this is fantastic. Very well done.
 

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Great !! Ya---- I always had to make arrangements waaaaaaay ahead if we wanted to have a Catholic Chaplain come to our unit in the field
 

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Absolutly the coolest bash I have seen on the board in a while.
 

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Great figure, I really like it. To add a bit to the 'Chaplainess' you could possibly add a purple stole. The purple stole is worn when hear penance and its very common to see a priest in the field, in armor and kit, wearing the stole and listening to a troops confession.

The Marine Corps has no Chaplains of its own, perse. All Chaplains assigned to the Marine Corps, Navy and the Coast Guard are Naval officers. Which doesn't necessarily make the title 'Marine Chaplain' wrong, I just want to make sure to point that out.

Also only Bishops and Pope wear the skull cap (called a zuchetto), so a priest Chaplain wouldn't have one. The Bishop of the US Military Archdiocese is a Bishop, but he would wear a violet zuchetto. A Cardinal would wear red, even if he is part of a religious order. Only the Pope wears a white zuchetto now.

Your numbers of priests vs lay Catholic in the military is correct. The whole world is having a harder time in keeping the priestly ranks filed anymore. Catholic Priests who want to be military Chaplains have to get permission from their Bishop to do so. The US Military Archdiocese have no priests of its own, all of them are leant to the Bishop from other dioceses. So priests aren't allowed to go directly from seminary to the military, but first must serve several years in their home parishes. Many of the Protestant churches allow Chaplains to commission directly from seminary. Which is another reason you see so few priests in the Chaplain Corps. Since seminary is four years following a four year college degree a priest has normally been in school for at least eight years before being sent to a parish. So even if one starts to enter the priesthood right after high school, they will be close to 30 before they are commissioned into the Chaplain Corps normally.

A Navy Chaplain will almost always be accompanied by a Religious Programs Specialist, who serves as the Chaplain's assistant and body guard. Four Catholic Chaplains have been awarded the Medal of Honor, one in WW2 and three in Vietnam. One, Angelo J. Liteky, later left the priesthood and renounced and returned the medal. Becoming one of the few, or possibly only, American to ever renounce the MOH.
 

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Great figure, I really like it. To add a bit to the 'Chaplainess' you could possibly add a purple stole. The purple stole is worn when hear penance and its very common to see a priest in the field, in armor and kit, wearing the stole and listening to a troops confession.

The Marine Corps has no Chaplains of its own, perse. All Chaplains assigned to the Marine Corps, Navy and the Coast Guard are Naval officers. Which doesn't necessarily make the title 'Marine Chaplain' wrong, I just want to make sure to point that out.

Also only Bishops and Pope wear the skull cap (called a zuchetto), so a priest Chaplain wouldn't have one. The Bishop of the US Military Archdiocese is a Bishop, but he would wear a violet zuchetto. A Cardinal would wear red, even if he is part of a religious order. Only the Pope wears a white zuchetto now.

Your numbers of priests vs lay Catholic in the military is correct. The whole world is having a harder time in keeping the priestly ranks filed anymore. Catholic Priests who want to be military Chaplains have to get permission from their Bishop to do so. The US Military Archdiocese have no priests of its own, all of them are leant to the Bishop from other dioceses. So priests aren't allowed to go directly from seminary to the military, but first must serve several years in their home parishes. Many of the Protestant churches allow Chaplains to commission directly from seminary. Which is another reason you see so few priests in the Chaplain Corps. Since seminary is four years following a four year college degree a priest has normally been in school for at least eight years before being sent to a parish. So even if one starts to enter the priesthood right after high school, they will be close to 30 before they are commissioned into the Chaplain Corps normally.

A Navy Chaplain will almost always be accompanied by a Religious Programs Specialist, who serves as the Chaplain's assistant and body guard. Four Catholic Chaplains have been awarded the Medal of Honor, one in WW2 and three in Vietnam. One, Angelo J. Liteky, later left the priesthood and renounced and returned the medal. Becoming one of the few, or possibly only, American to ever renounce the MOH.
Wow, an awesome amount of info. Thanks very much. I was debating about the purple stole. I even made one but decided not to add it at the last moment. As for the zuchetto, I feared as much. Oh well, perhaps I'll paint it violet and make him a Bishop...

Thanks again,

doug
 

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No problem, I think it awesome to see a Chaplain figure.

I was wrong about the zuchetto though. I did some delving into Cannon Law and priests are allowed to wear it, though it would be black in color. It has fallen out of practice and is apparently extremely rare occurrence now, but is still authorized. So you wouldn't have to make him a Bishop.
 

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Well done:) I really like the sculpt - and I had no clue about the Chalpins Assistant ( that sounds like another bash in the making ) Very nice bash:)
 

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Awesome bash and very original subject. Great work.

As for chaplain's assistant's, I knew three and they were hands down among the most useless soldiers I ever saw. One of them spent all of his time in the field catching and killing rats, gophers and other small varmints and then stuffing and mounting them, like a taxidermist would. They were all over his office and in his Humvee.

He was a strange dude.

Anyway, your bash is one of the best I've ever seen, in terms of both subject matter and work.
 

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No problem, I think it awesome to see a Chaplain figure.

I was wrong about the zuchetto though. I did some delving into Cannon Law and priests are allowed to wear it, though it would be black in color. It has fallen out of practice and is apparently extremely rare occurrence now, but is still authorized. So you wouldn't have to make him a Bishop.
That was very kind of you to look into that for me. I'm going to paint it black then! Thanks again,
doug
 
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