* Clarification: definition of a retailer/dealer *

1139 Views 15 Replies 11 Participants Last post by GrenadierStinny, Jan 31, 2008

Ronin Six

Discussion Starter · Jan 31, 2008

Instead of needing to have some sort of storefront (website, Ebay, or brick and mortar) to be considered a retailer/dealer, we're extending the reach of that definition to include anyone that purchases goods in large quantities (wholesale or otherwise) to sell for a profit or mostly for resale. We're focusing mainly on those involved in caseloads of stuff (as opposed to a guy selling extras)... operating mostly on a dealer-level capacity without necessarily having a storefront.

As such, dealers should read and continue to follow the guidelines stated here: http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/announcement.php?f=40

Furthermore, we're also specifying that members facilitating group buys or similar do NOT fall within the dealer/retailer definition.

(Whether or not a member falls into the retailer category will be at staff's discretion.)

Thanks for your cooperation and understanding!

Note: Whether a dealer or trader, please refrain from excessively bumping your own threads yourself, or with shill accounts. Shill/multiple accounts originating from the same IP will be heavily scrutinized.

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

CorranJ

· #2 · Jan 31, 2008

Soo if someone has alot of 1/6 surplus he is trying to sell because he has to much,he can be considered a retailer?

Just Clay

· #3 · Jan 31, 2008

If your primary reason for posting is to sell stuff loose or boxed, then you are a retailer.

We've had a couple of chuckleheads try to circumvent the rules lately, causing Staff to spend hobbytime cleaning up numerous trade threads and dummy accounts. That's time we could have been spending with family or posting pics of our cool assed bashes.

Want to be the clever kid who thinks the rules don't apply to you? Fine. we have no problem offering 60-90 day vacations away from the OSW to any who feel the need.

Set up a dummy account once we've sent you on Holidays and we make that vacation away from the OSW permanent.

That help?

Clay

Ronin Six

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 31, 2008

Again, at the staff's discretion. Since it can be very subjective, we'll do it on a case by case basis.

Focusing mainly on caseloads of stuff, instead of a bunch of one-offs. Operating mostly on a dealer-level capacity without necessarily having a storefront.

CorranJ

· #5 · Jan 31, 2008

OK,I'm not trying to be a smart-ass or anything you know.I was just asking before too many start getting crazy.

But I do understand where you are coming from.

mx22

· #6 · Jan 31, 2008

Lol Aaron,

Do you buy same product in bulk (i.e. at least 5-6 of the same boxed figure) with a main purpose to sell them, boxed or loose? If you do, then you are a "retailer"; if not, you have nothing to worry

Alexei

CorranJ

· #7 · Jan 31, 2008

No guys,I get that part of it.I was just trying to get to the "busy trader" part.

s-ramos

· #8 · Jan 31, 2008

If you take a look at the trade section there is a post missing that always included the newest figs parted out as soon as they hit the dealers. Im really glad something was done about that because that was a really shady thing to do. It was also unfair to the dealers who actually take part in the discussions on the board and in chat who play by the rules. Now whats up with those random "the boots are here" posts, in completely unrelated threads:bag

MigsGabb811

· #9 · Jan 31, 2008

guess this only applies to people who buy caseloads of sets, boxes of sets, not just singles or gear from spare parts bins

basically someone who acts/sells like any other e-tailer, but does not have a storefront like EBT, MD, GSTG, VP, etc etc

Just Clay

· #10 · Jan 31, 2008

Some folks have been using the OSW as there primary sales tool to make money, Selling 1/6th. If this was just taking place in the retailer/dealer section and they were following the protocols set up, it wouldn't be a problem. But unfortunately they decided that the guidelines we've set down to make it good for all do not apply to them even after numerous requests, suggestions and polite demands from Staff to knock it off. They've been all over the trades page and main discussion forum playing loosey goosey with us, and to be blunt we're tired of it.

Staff are hobbyists first, board watchers second. So when someone decides to play "outlaw"and ignore/ walk on/pee all over us...... well then the best thing to do is show them the door, that way everyone else here on the OSW can focus on the important things like bashing figs, posting pics and discussing our odd little hobby.

There isn't a single guy in Staff who likes this part of our job, not one. Norm has spent countless hours working with the Trade Police to ensure that the guidelines are fair and reasonable to all who visit the OSW.

Enjoy your day, have fun with your figures and don't get caught up in the small stuff. Unless of course it's 1/6th small stuff.

Clay

See less See more

laughinggravy2

· #11 · Jan 31, 2008

All I can say is that staff doesn't get paid nearly enough.

"Freee" is a tough salary for the work they do to keep things level around here.

Thanks for the vigilance.

Sawgunner

· #12 · Jan 31, 2008

laughinggravy2 said:
All I can say is that staff doesn't get paid nearly enough.

"Freee" is a tough salary for the work they do to keep things level around here.

Thanks for the vigilance.

It's always nice when someone notices...........

5x5!

· #13 · Jan 31, 2008

I don't see how providing brand new gear to the OSW base is even close to being "shady."

What's wrong with parting out a new figure?

MigsGabb811

· #14 · Jan 31, 2008

5x5! said:
I don't see how providing brand new gear to the OSW base is even close to being "shady."

What's wrong with parting out a new figure?

Probably nothing, but that is not the point in this thread. They are simply stating that if you are going to be selling box sets (parted out or not) and in volumes of that of a retail store, then it should follow vendor/store guidelines per the OSW, just like when stores/dealers sells mass volumes of box sets and at the same time parts out these new figures. I guess one has to acquire Store/dealer/retailer rights here on the board, just like every dealer here. At least this is my understanding, but then again i could be wrong.

grizzerr

· #15 · Jan 31, 2008

s-ramos said:
If you take a look at the trade section there is a post missing that always included the newest figs parted out as soon as they hit the dealers. Im really glad something was done about that because that was a really shady thing to do. It was also unfair to the dealers who actually take part in the discussions on the board and in chat who play by the rules. Now whats up with those random "the boots are here" posts, in completely unrelated threads:bag

The boots issue has been addressed.

GrenadierStinny

· #16 · Jan 31, 2008 (Edited)

5x5! said:
I don't see how providing brand new gear to the OSW base is even close to being "shady."

What's wrong with parting out a new figure?

When the line between discussion boards and surrogate dealer website is crossed, then lines begin to blur, people get heated, dealers begins to complain because they do more for the boards than some other dealer, and so on and so on.

Keeping things separate is the only way to keep Pandora's Box closed.

Is it easier for new dealers to post all their items here for free rather than create their own site? Of course.

Is it nice to have a place where all the members can just go to the Trade Forum and see all the new goods parted out and up for grabs? Obviously.

But there are way too many potential problems with that situation. The staff can not make personal decisions or have personal biases-- for good or bad-- about people who sell multiple bulk items for profit-- which if the definition of a dealer.

In order to avoid different business ethics and the politics that come with being associated with multiple dealers all wanting favors and preferences from the staff-- we keep it separate. It might not seem like it to some-- but this decision is best for all of us.

See less See more

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.