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A while back, BGT started a couple of pages of American Indian Wars equipment, uniforms and weapons. I took a couple of quick pics to show some more detail on the items. I already reviewed the Trapdoor Carbine, and now there is a lot more to work with. http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-discussion/708421-battlegear-toys-trapdoor-carbine.html

There is a mix of equipment, and we'll start with the "1885" cartridge belt and holster. The term "1885" is a collector's term taken from "Ordnance Memo #29 - Cavalry Equipments, 1885", which was published in 1891. This shows the equipment in use in 1885, though some of the items were issued before that year. The Mills cartridge belt was originally issued with a large "H" shaped "U.S." belt plate, and it is thought around 1881, they began issuing the belt shown for cavalry use. It has a leather billet and bar buckle that is easier to work with and adjust, and has the addition of a brass square and hook for the one-piece saber hanger. BattleGear has faithfully reproduced this belt, and also the third pattern 1881 holster. This holster was the third of it's style, with a belt loop just big enough to slide over an empty Mills belt. It has a "half-flap" to leave the pistol butt exposed and two button holes so it may carry either the Colt or the Smith and Wesson "Schofield" revolver. It is also nicley built, and has the "US" stamp on the body. (For more details on IW holster, here is a link to my post on that subject: http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-discussion/549834-cw-iw-army-holsters.html )
To fill this holster, BGT has a new S&W "Schofield". I have to say, this is my new favorite 1/6 revolver. Unlike the SST version (which has been copied by others), the barrel length is correct, and the action opens to expose the cylinder for loading. Be careful, because the rotating cylinder can fall out when it's open. Put a little fabric or white glue on the rod to tighten it up.
BattleGear also has the modified pistol cartridge pouch. It is a CW cap pouch, with the addition of a "US" stamp (thought to have been started about 1875). There were no provisions on the early Mills belts for pistol ammo, and this will fit over the billet, or on a saber belt. There is also a handsome McKeever cartidge box, which began as an infantry item in 1874 and was issued to the cavalry in 1879 - mostly used in garrison. This has been beautifully reproduced and actually opens to expose two rows of cartridges.

Reinforced trousers are a big addition, and come in several styles. Mounted troops were issued trousers with an extra piece in the seat, and this is the first version in 1/6 since the SST 5th Michigan Cavalry. They come in sky blue and medium blue (for use after 1884), and have an adjustment belt in the back. Both colors come with a "canvas" seat, as many soldiers reinforced their own infantry trousers for campaign, which was especially noted in the '76 campaign. The saddle piece on the BGT trousers does not go all the way to the pants cuff, but ends in a point, but this is covered by the boots.
The 1872 campaign hat is another nice item. Like the original, it is very light and you will need to soak it to get a shape that will stay on a figure's head. I had used the BGT black Stetson for bashes, but all this needs is a little shaping. I also added a crease in the brim from front to back, as this hat was designed to fold flat. There are several styles of boots available, too. The ones shown on the Buffalo Soldier do well for the 1876 boots, with the foot portion a separate piece from the leg, instead of the one piece front. The gray band-collar shirt is perfect for the 1870's. So many soldiers cut the folding collar from their shirts that the army issued them in this style.
Other items are available in the Spanish-American War pages. These include the 1884 5-button blouse (see the Buffalo Soldier), the 1883 pull-over shirt, the 1878 Haversack (listed as a "knapsack"), brown campaign hat and suspenders. One correction should be made, as BattleGear lists the "Y" shaped braces, when the "X' version is the correct style for the 1884 suspenders.
There are other items out now, like the Custer bib front shirt and pre-shaped cavalry campaign hats. Auggie has shown more items to follow, including a CW McClellan saddle tree(!) and an 1870's kepi. I can only hope this will all lead to more Indian War bashes for us to enjoy!
 

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Mark, thanks for the excellent review and especially the knowledge you shared. I confess to long wanting to create some US cavalry figures from this period as well as ACW figures. The problem is is that I am so woefully deficient in my understanding of the various weapons, uniforms, and acoutrements associated with them that I am hesitant to even start.

So thanks again to you for sharing such great info with us and I hope we (and I mainly mean the me part of we) can rely on you as a resource in the future when we have lots of basic questions!
 

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Hey Dawg, besides Mark's generous, rich descriptions, there's also information to be had online, and at many libraries (still a great place to spend time, and helpful staff). A lucky person would live within striking distance of the United States Cavalry Association Library, at Fort Riley, Kansas - http://www.uscavalry.org/services/cavalry-library.html There's also a lot of literature on the subject(s), tho that can bite into the war funds.
Speaking of that, Mark, every time you post about Augie and Quan's new stuff, it costs me money. Still, I owe you thanks. I just ordered some arms, including a pair of Schofields (which are my favorite pistol of the period). I also posted a note asking Augie if he was considering making a 7-1/2 inch barrel Single Action Army.

Putting together these period troops ain't cheap, but what is? BattleGear Toys is the go to supplier that makes so much possible, which could only be scratched together before. Thanks to Augie and Quan, and thanks to you Mark, for being the scout, out front.

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Hah! I can't take ALL the blame for your situation, Mike, but I will shoulder some of it. But take a look at my pics and you see one or two examples of things I have piles of - and "need" more. I'm as much a victim of my own trap. If each of my reviews generates some more business, it allows Auggie to produce more new stuff...and the vicious cycle continues! As for the Colt, I've got no inside info, but knowing they already produce short barrel Colts and make the '81 holster, we stand a good shot! And if you hear of any liquor store holdups in my area - just a coincidence!
 

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The problem is is that I am so woefully deficient in my understanding of the various weapons, uniforms, and accouterments associated with them that I am hesitant to even start.
Well, I understand wanting to be historically accurate. And, as pointed out above, there is a wealth of reference material easily and inexpensively available.

However, the overriding reality is that you don't have to please anyone but yourself. Those that would seriously criticize your work should be graciously offered the opportunity to piss off.

Build on and make yourself happy.
 

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Well, I understand wanting to be historically accurate. And, as pointed out above, there is a wealth of reference material easily and inexpensively available.

However, the overriding reality is that you don't have to please anyone but yourself. Those that would seriously criticize your work should be graciously offered the opportunity to piss off.

Build on and make yourself happy.
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Mark, thanks for the excellent review and especially the knowledge you shared. I confess to long wanting to create some US cavalry figures from this period as well as ACW figures. The problem is is that I am so woefully deficient in my understanding of the various weapons, uniforms, and acoutrements associated with them that I am hesitant to even start.

So thanks again to you for sharing such great info with us and I hope we (and I mainly mean the me part of we) can rely on you as a resource in the future when we have lots of basic questions!
MD....just getting into ACW figures myself, the cool thing is since uniforms were sourced from many different ways, you can use a lot of imagination. I really like the Indian Wars cavalry myself but I keep telling myself I don't have the room.
 

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Great review Mark. I just received my latest order from Battle gear, which included the Schofield revolver, I'm very impressed. Now that I have it in hand and see that it's well made and sturdy, I'll grab a couple more for sure. BG's Army and Navy colts are also great pieces.

Tim
 
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