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    are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Hello again!

    I am wondering if the following 2 machine guns are the same:

    1) The gun used by Will Smith in Bad Boys 2 during the street shoutout in Miami and in his Ferrari

    and

    2) Takara Cool Girl CG-07 Harley' s Machine Gun

    They both have a very long straight mag clip and they appear similiar but I don't have the actual product in front of me.

    There was a DML carded set that included 3 guns, 1) a G36C, 2) a longer barreled G36 and 3) the gun that I am trying to figure out what it is.

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    The gun Will Smith uses in BB2 is an HK UMP45, according to the movie firearm DB.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    The Cy Girls gun is a Walther MPL.
    It sounds like the other gun you are describing is a HK UMP.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Takara Cool Girl CG-07 Harley' s Machine Gun is very cool! The extra clip is attached to the folding stock.

    In answer to your question, NO. They are not the same.
    Bad boys: HK UMP
    Cool Girl: Walther MPL

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    nope theyre not the same. I couldnt tell you what Harley's gun is suppose to be. I think someone said it was a walther MPL. Its very close but now exactly like the Walther.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    ah Dok took first place!

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    The bad boys gun is a UMP-45 made by HK.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    sweet! Thanks guys! After seeing Will Smith in the street shootout, its one of my favorite guns.

    What kinda of military or law enforcement units use them?
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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Quote Originally Posted by darthrage View Post
    sweet! Thanks guys! After seeing Will Smith in the street shootout, its one of my favorite guns.

    What kinda of military or law enforcement units use them?
    Usally SWAT teams use the UMP. I like the UMP because its .45 and has more stoping power than the MP5.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Quote Originally Posted by darthrage View Post
    What kinda of military or law enforcement units use them?
    There's a photo floating around (was posted on MP.net and here awhile back) of a US SOF soldier carrying a UMP in Iraq.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Quote Originally Posted by fareastthunder View Post
    Darthrage,

    You might find this site, in a very general sense, to be a great resource, esp if you are IDing gear for your commercial site.

    http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm

    Good luck

    FET

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Alex:

    The DML set you are referring to is the DML G36 HEER (DR# 71090) carded weapons set that came out about 2004/5. It came with three (3) weapons:

    1 ea. Rifle: Heckler & Koch G36 Carbine
    1 ea. Rifle: Heckler & Koch G36 Prototype
    1 ea. Submachinegun: Heckler & Koch UMP .45 Cal w/Noise Suppressor.



    Once upon a time you could get the set from Echo Base Toys but that was a year ago.

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Quote Originally Posted by darthrage View Post
    What kinda of military or law enforcement units use them?
    Well, the German Army uses them, for example the MP's or the special-companys of the paratroopers. Not to forget the KSK...

    1stSGT_Zottel

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    Re: are these 2 machine guns the same??

    Quote Originally Posted by 1/6th happy View Post
    Usally SWAT teams use the UMP. I like the UMP because its .45 and has more stoping power than the MP5.
    Isn't the UMP's whole conception down to producing a replacement for the MP5? I mean, the MP5 is lovely and all that, but it's a pretty old design now (plus I'd love to see more 1/6th UMPS, hehe).

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