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Old 10-18-2010, 03:51
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1/6 Indian Motorcycle

A friend of mine sold me this 1/6 scale Indian motorcycle at a great price.I think that it is really neat.....Now to find some great riding leathers
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Hey Walter1965,

So YOU're the one who got that Motorsicle.... Cool deal, but I just didn't have a need for it.

- Ivan.
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Very nice!

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Great pickup mate.

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Old 10-18-2010, 22:00
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Cool. Guiloy makes some nice 1:6 scale Indians as well.
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Thanks guys its pretty cool.Ivan,I sent the seller a new in the box MP talker for free....so he gave me a very good deal on the Indian Bike......Walter
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Re: 1/6 Indian Motorcycle

Love the Indian, my favorite bike over the more popular Harley. This is a good model but can use some improvements - plenty of photos on the web that could help you with details. It's an Indian Model 741B produced around 1940-1943, one of the same models the military used. Notice that the bike has only one brake handle for the front brake (on the right), an innovation introduced by Indian in 1928. There are a lot of 1:6 bikers leathers around, some really good. Check the eBay vendors listed on OSW.
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THE QUESTION IS, WHO WILL RIDE THIS BIKE?
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THE QUESTION IS, WHO WILL RIDE THIS BIKE?
It was Steve McQueens favorite bike, he was known to have one of the largest collections of Indians. His first bike was a '46 Indian Chief.
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Old 10-19-2010, 17:19
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I do believe the Indian MC that is shown in the pic is a 1948 model.
I have one in a box, and there is a date on the back panel (upper left) of 1948.
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Old 10-21-2010, 15:20
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There are plenty of these on e-bay at the moment, including some in army drab, etc. Here is a sample one:

1948 Indian 1:6 Scale Diecast Motorcycle on eBay (end time 10-Nov-10 22:34:59 GMT)

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Great snag Walter!!
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Thanks for the info fellas....Hey Murray Thanks friend!! The indian motorcycle arrived yesterday..It is really cool...Does anyone know what kind of bike that Marlon Brando rode in the movie "The Wild One??..Walter
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Think Brando's bike was a Triumph.
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Think Brando's bike was a Triumph.
Yes it was a Triumph Thunderbird, with a hardtail frame. Which is a side by side twin and not a v-twin like the Indian. I believe Brando also rode a Matchless in either the Wild One or a similiar film, you see to be a true American motorcycle rebel you have to ride a British bike !!
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:55
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I do believe the Indian MC that is shown in the pic is a 1948 model.
I have one in a box, and there is a date on the back panel (upper left) of 1948.
Sorry I've taken so long to get back to you. Unfortunately the New Ray bike is really the earlier Indian Chief Model 741 produced between 1940-1943 and not the 1948 as stated on the box. There are a number of small differences but most noticeable are the 18 inch wheels (pre and wartime Indians had 16 inch wheels), lack of balloon tires and the gorgeous fenders/wheel pants (seen on post-war Indians), all standard on the '48 Chief. New Ray has come out with an Indian with the wheel pants on the fenders but that's the only change, private collectors sometimes add the wheel pants to earlier models on the real thing but that doesn't change the year or more importantly the size of the engine. They have also come out with a 1:6 1938 Indian Four (4 cylinder) which is cool and a rare representation in model form. In that they have got the engine right, thankfully, and the exhaust, frame and seat look right in the pictures I've seen but I haven't seen it in person so that's all I can say.

Sadly the New Ray and the identical 21st Century Toys military version (obviously made from the same molds) have errors galour. Nice attempts but they incorporate elements of several year and model Indians (a little bit of the Scout can be seen), the dimensions are off and the engine need corrections and details. Their model most closely resembles the 1940 - 1943 Chief model 741. One of the biggest differences and discrepancy in the stated '48 bike and actual '40-'43 that is represented is that the '48 had a massive 1200cc engine, whereas the wartime model only a 500cc. That's the biggest reason that Indian did not receive as many contracts from the government for military service as Harley with their beafier 740cc on the WLA.

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Another criticism of I have of the so-called "die-cast" models is that other than the frame of the bike on the front fork they are completely made from plastic. Truth in advertising should dictate that these are "plastic models with die-cast parts".

There is a true '48 Indian done in 1:6 made by Testors in their "Lincoln Mint Ultra Metal Series" model kits. The kits are a mixture of plastic and metal parts (lots of them) and are not for the faint hearted. These are abso-f**kin-lutely BEAUTIFUL motorcycle models. Other than some of Tamiya's 1:6 kits I don't think anyone can hold a candle to these Testors kits. Now be forewarned you had better be an experienced modeller if you intend to tackle one of these. But if you'd like to own a TRUE 1948 Indian Chief your only choice is the Testors kit. They are very hard to get, eBay is about the only occasional source and they go for big money. Other bikes in the 1:6 series of kits are a couple of Harleys: the Electroglide and Road King.
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Many thanks for that informative tutorial on Indian motorcycles.

So the bottom line is we can't trust the makers of these 1:6 bikes to label or identify the models they make as correct?

Now that's confusing.....
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There is another answer to Furious Genius's criticism of the Newray Indians, Guiloy !! I have posted this pic before and I apologise if it is out of place to post it again, but I still think it is the nicest Indian model. Sadly though there are a few around and on e-bay they seem to be getting expensive, the last I tried to bid on went for 70 euros plus, and that was cheap!! Although they do have some plastic parts the frame (working rear suspension), forks (which work!), tank, handlebars, mudguards and stand are all metal. It also has all the correct brake and gear lines and linkages. The 1920 scout is similiar but the suspension does not work.



PS. I have a couple of the Testors Harley kits and they are indeed very good, I must look out for the Indian, thank you F G.
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Many thanks for that informative tutorial on Indian motorcycles.

So the bottom line is we can't trust the makers of these 1:6 bikes to label or identify the models they make as correct?

Now that's confusing.....
Ah, I like to think better something than nothing. I really believe that manufacturers do the best they can most of the time. I want it perfect out of the box but that's rarely the case. I got used to sawing things apart and correcting errors from building all sorts of plastic models. I'm so much of a nerd that if it looked wrong I had to fix it, sometimes big things like the length and width of an armored vehicle for instance. Sometimes a little effort can go a long way, if you just correct or improve the obvious, you end up with a finished product that you can be proud that you own something that no one else does.

Unklian, no not at of place at all. Guiloy makes very fine models, but like you said pretty much out of the reach of most pocketbooks. If you can find a Guiloy at a good price - grab it! I personally recommend Xonex 1:6 all metal models, I have the 1917 Harley w/sidecar and it's wonderful. They were individually hand made, like the real thing. These are expensive too but I really got a bargain by Googling until I found a shop that was selling the last few they had for $50! Coup of the century for me.

Looking at some of the newer releases by New Ray (new at least to me) they may have taken the criticism seriously enough to correct some of their earlier mistakes. That '38 Indian Four looks very good, and for a collector a definite must have in the Indian family. I'd like to see even earlier Indians in 1:6, they are as old as Harley-Davidson and I if memory serves me they actually beat Harley to the title of oldest motorcycle manufacturer by a few months in 1901 - within the decade they out sold Harley.
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