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[RayGun]

Thanks for sharing

[Longhorn92]

On a personal note, most of the surviving sixth scale online forums spawned or was an offshoot, one way or another, from the original Warrior Forum, where the basic tenet was to SPEAK YOUR SIXTH SCALE MIND The original forum was created so legitimate views on the hobby could not be censored or shouted down, be they popular or not. I still believe in it. And seeing some things recently said, I realize some folks, in my opinion, just don't even remember it. Sometime there's a bitter irony about "What's Good For The Hobby"

I think the phrase "legitimate views" is highly subjective. Without mods, this place would be a chaotic, idiotic and annoying place to visit. It'd be an online fistfight.

As for the rest of your views, I disagree with most of them and while I am certain I can logically counter each one, I have neither the time nor desire to do so. I know you are a longtime community member but I often wonder why you post long, oftentimes rambling and not-so-easy to decipher dissertations on the one sixth hobby. I don't think our hobby was meant to be taken this seriously. If an academic journal existed covering our hobby, you'd no doubt be published.

Sometimes I wonder why you choose to start such discussions that I'm sure you are aware many will not agree with; I think you like confrontation for the sake of confrontation.

I, for one, would like to read about and discuss the hobby from a less philosophical and academic standpoint. I'm not here to read and learn about the hobby's economic or social impact on society.

[Migster11]

Another can of worms?

I would have to disagree with this assertion.

Why? Many reasons, one being i have not gone to a WOH and would love to go to one even though if its not held locally for me next year. Then after that, maybe i'll go every year, who knows. For the most part, i don't think its really about the stuff you will acquire, its more like the experience. My son and I had a blast just going to the local Gi Joe Sac show, yes i bought some stuff for me and a fellow collector, but its more like shooting the .... and chewing the fat with the vendors and other fellow mandolly lovers. Come to think of it, even if i came out empty handed, i'd still had a great time, my son especially. I really think you put so much into this WOH thing than you are supposed to, but that's your choice, and i have to respect that.

I'm here to enjoy the hobby with everyone who loves it and sees it as it is, a hobby. Not a complicated intangible matter that influences my whole life. It is a part of my life but not "my life." I think some people have forgotten to draw a line or a limit to their indulgence to this hobby. Just like what LH92 said, i for one am not here to dissect the hobby from its existance, and analyze its history, right down to the very minute detail. I am not here to discuss or share any economic or social aspects/factors of this hobby. What we do in regards to the hobby may it be a purchase, a kitbash, or a post here in the forums is our choice and we have to respect each other about it.

I am here to enjoy the hobby, kitbash, share info, share figures, help/assist (if possible), and just have fun with the rest of the community! With all due respect, that is all i expect of the hobby, nothing more, nothing less. If i may, i will leave all the complications to whoever wants to spend their time and effort in analysing the hobby furthermore than what is really supposed to be, by all means, its your choice.

You may not agree with me, but that's your choice, and i respect that.

Whelp, time to have some lumpia and a can of Coke, life is good when you make it simple and fun, no time to waste to make it even more complicated than it already is.

[Hollowpoint]

Long winded son of a gun isn't he.

[Hardcase01]

Well as Dave hasn't done anything other then voice an opinion, I see no reason for the sarcasm. I don't agree with everything said, but I do not see anywhere in the guidelines that say we have to. Do you?

WOH07 was a great show, but I'd be just as happy to go to vegas and hang out with my friends. But that's the difference here, some are motivated by the product, some by the people and friendships. Neither is wrong, Just different.


The majority of opinions expressed here at the OSW have made it clear that WOH07 was a great show and one worth going to next year, But once again that opinion depends on why folks attended. If you go to a show like WOH looking for new product or hard to get a hold of product, you're going to be dissapointed. But if you're looking to hang out have fun and chill out? great, you'll have a blast.

Go, Don't go. But whatever your decision remember, you made it so live with it. Life's all about choices, make the ones that support you in doing what you want and being who you are.


HC01 out.


Clay

[laughingravy2]

There are folks who live in San Diego, or Long Island, or Daytona that still vacation in Hawaii.

Which just shows that it isn't always the beach.

You can't say what motivates others by putting your own values and opinions to things.

Personally, I don't really care why people go, as long as through their attendance it ensures a show the following year.

At any rate, I was wondering where this week's doom-and-gloom thread was.

[GrenadierStinny]

I used to live in Los Angeles, so going to WOH was a no-brainer.

Went every year.

Now I live in NJ, and I knew there was nothing at WOH that I couldn't find online at one of my favorite dealers. In fact, I knew I'd find less stuff there since not ALL my favorite dealers were going to be there.

But, I flew from NJ out to LA to go to the show.

Why?

To spend time with all the people I have met on these boards and now call FRIEND. To talk. Laugh. Pass the time. Enjoy a weekend with my fellow OneSix'ers and have one hallava great time doing it.

If they were not there, I probably wouldn't be either.

I know from a realistic perspective that everything boils down to money. Will John Lu make enough to warrant WOH 08'? I hope so. It's a great show and a lot of people love it-- me included.

But, there is more to attending WOH than just the show. There's the experience and there's the PEOPLE.

And that's why I'll go again next year, no matter where I may be living.

[USMCCHET92_96]

If we use your logic than people who are bikers should avoid Sturgis, Laconia, Daytona, and other bike shows because the money they spend may not go to support there hobby, like all the beer they drink and/or hotels they stay in. My semi-annual trek to the Vegas gun show should be canceled because I know for a fact ill be spending money on the strip and not at the show. If we use your logic those people who are nowhere near a place that has a “local” event should just suck it up, shutup and stay the f**k home because we need to pump every available dollar we have into the hobby to ensure its continued growth.

I may be a hypocrite because I do happen to live local to WOH and Echobase so I get to hang with my fellow collector many times a year but to me and I would assume many others …in fact the majority of others shows like WOH is what inspires my to collect throughout the year. In fact if it wasn’t for shows I know id have a lot more money because I prolly wouldn’t be in this hobby. I mean really why would I want to be in a hobby that I cant share with others on a personal level.

I used to collect Star Wars figures (mostly 3-3/4 and some 12inch) from 1994 to 2000. I was lucky that at that time I worked the grave yard shift and could meet up with other SW collectors at Traget, TRU, and Wally Mart in the morning before the store’s opened to get first dibs at whatever they re-stocked over night. Man I was a Star Wars ..... in the worst sense. I had doubles and triples of everything. I traded and bartered for figures ran thru the isles and was generally consumed by anything Star Wars till I realized something. It was no longer fun to collect Star Wars. Life was consumed by being a completist. If I couldn’t get the 20th variant of Luke Skywalker I would go crazy. I soon realized that I was spending more time looking for that holy grail than I was enjoying the hobby with my friends who were SW fans so I quit collecting shortly there after.

The vast majority of my fun money goes to my 1/6th fetish but I am no where near as obsessive with it as I was with Star Wars. Just this weekend I blew over 2 bills on 1/6th but none of it was 1/6th. I got hobby supplies at a local non-1/6th hobby shop and a new display case. Now according to FET’s logic I should return all that stuff because it doesn’t directly support the hobby or the local dealers.

The hobby will sink or swim regardless of whether or not people go to WOH and I think events like WOH do more to promote and inspire people in the hobby more than staying home does or some vague hope there will be some local event in your area. Most people aren’t as lucky as I am, most people don’t live 20 minutes from a store like Echobase, most people don’t have dealers as cool as Nan and Tung who throw gatherings on a regular basis, most people are more interested in the friends they make than the stuff they collect.

Now that I have responded to your post I will get slightly personal…….

Your post is titled “My Views On WOH 2007” but the thought that comes to my mind is “Do we give a s**t about your views on WOH 2007” I mean really why even post something like this especially after the thrashing of John Liu’s thank you post. Hell if I was John I’d never post here again after what happened in that post. You should have titled you post “My views on WOH 2007 guaranteed to start a commotion and give me what I want ….attention”. I don’t think I have ever typed this much for as long as I have been on these boards. My mantra normally is….”if you can say it in 2 sentences or less than you shouldn’t say it”. Now people like you generally can’t say something in less than 2 paragraphs much less 2 sentences. Fet people like you want attention. They aren’t here to “Speak your 6th scale mind” (something I came up with back in the day BTW) they are hear so skirt the rules and push people by their very being here into such anger as to draw attention to themselves but remain just above the fray so they themselves stay out of trouble and appear to the board as the aggrieved member and not the one who really started the mess in the first place. FET “Speak your Sixth Scale Mind” was stupid. It was an open invitation to talk smack and start fights. People hid behind it and used it as an excuse for bad behavior. See FET I was there back in the WF days and I remember……hell I caused a lot of the problems we had. See people for the un-initiated once there was basically only the WF and I was an admin there. We had a great time, there was a smaller member base and we weren’t really interested in moving up big leagues so we the staff talked as much sh-ite as the next guy. See we edited posts, made fun of people and generally were as outta control as those that started the fight. We drove people off the boards, made enemies of people who had legitimate grips and thought we were the sh-ite. Soon former admins and members opened there own board and honestly who could fault them. The WF had degenerated as one former admin put it “an old west saloon”. Gee talk about the good old days. Eventually the WF changed to the OSW and trust me its much better now. Sure Id like to see the staff rotate out from time to time from Normin on down but that just my opinion and most opinions are like the proverbial ...-hole and they tend to sink.

FET I saw you at WOH and Hooters and you were just sitting there like a bump on a log …prolly more interested in the gift boxes and prizes than talking to your fellow collectors. Now I didn’t expect you to talk to me but geez buddy if the hobby is only about the product and making trade deals than man id find a new hobby if I were you and stop screwing up this one for everyone else

[One Shot GD]

Chetster....I too was a Star Wars ..........

I can remember the days when we would all meet up at Target around 7:50 am , knowing they opened at 8:00. As soon as the doors would open, here we all go...5 or 6 grown males all making a bee line for the toy aisles. none of us would even talk to each other on the way there. Am I a fan of Star Wars...you bet your ... I still am...do I collect there toys any longer? NOPE. Like you, it consumed me and I lost the fun in collecting that line. Now I am stuck having too pay for a storage unit for all of my triples and doubles of all the 3 3/4 in. line. LOL! what a dumb ... I was.
I jumped into this hobby or should I say transitioned into this 1:6 hobby after switching from the Hasbro 12 in. SW line to the Ultimate Soldier. Man oh man was it fun seeing all the latest 21C boxed figures on the shelves of Walmart and TRU. 21C got us all here no matter what everybody now thinks of their product. But that's a different story.
Why we should go to the WOH show...because it is our choice. I live down in San Diego, we have what they call the Comic-Con. every year close to 120,000 visitors will head to our convention center to look at all the latest that pop culture has to offer. I go every year (and buy Sideshow figures from Nan and Tung of EBT fame)this year I myself found my thrills at the WOH show over a month ago. I knew I was going to leave with a whole bunch of stuff for sure. I saved so I could hit up all the retailers and buy and touch the items I usually only have the pleasure to view online. The WOH show to me is a GREAT place to go each year. why? because I get to be in a convention full of people who share my very same hobby! Plus meeting you guys in person is a plus. (Although most OSW'ers wouldn't know me if I sat right next to you. LOL!) if your into 1:6th scale figures.....the show is a plus. why wouldn't it be? I say go and see all the vendors you buy online from. there are plenty of toys on display plus there is 1:6 scale tanks running all over the convention room floor, grown men dressed up in battle gear, and last but not least you get to chit chat with Laughinggravy 2 (that in itself is worth the 7.00 dollar entry fee). USCM Chet, I see where you were going with this post. I stand by your opinion. This hobby is for our fun...let's try and have some.

One Shot out!

[grizzerr]

Well done to all who have responded to FET's dribble!!

His absence is well noted.....

[5x5!]

I quit collecting SW stuff the day a grown man physically shoved me and RAN for the SW aisle at store opening, and got the ONLY 12" Darth Maul on the shelf ... This wasn't a little guy either: he was a massive dude, and really broke a sweat getting to that toy. It wasn't so much that he "beat" me to the fig I wanted ... It was that I was afraid of becoming THAT GUY. (I turned around and within a day had bought the fig on ebay. Probably from the same freakin guy.)

As for WOH ... I appreciate the cameraderie that is expressed here after every show. I enjoy the show vicariously through people's photos and intel reports. I have never considered going simply because I'd rather spend the $$$ on figs (and the rare 1:1 food and clothing) than on plane tix and a hotel, and for the privilege of buying stuff in person from the same people I buy stuff from online on a weekly basis. FUN, sure, and if the show were in my city, I'd go in a heartbeat.

So maybe some would consider this a case of my being "priced out." I don't like the sound of that to be honest. Sounds too Marxist to me. IMHO its more a case of priorities.

[Hollowpoint]

One must also remember that not everyone has the finacial means to actually attend a WOH. Some fine folks here do the best they can with what they got. Sacrifice a week of decent food for a week of canned goods, just to get the next fig. There are those that want to go but just do not have the means, or have their priorities better organzied than some of us, lol.

[cree82]

And coming in September the long awaited sequel, "My Views On The American Custom Figure Symposium".

[Migster11]

Originally Posted by cree82

And coming In September the long awaited sequel, "My Views On American Custom Figure Symposium".

prolly won't happen, since it won't cost you a penny to get in

[Ronin Six]

I often go to a party for only the food & drink, but not the company, without bringing anything for the host nor the guests, then leave after stuffing my face. And then I tell people the party sucked, and tell the host to prepare better food. Naw, I'm just kidding. (Sometimes I sit on the couch and flip through the magazines and the cable channels too.) Hey, at least I got what I went there for, right?

Anyway...

While shows may or may not be good for the individual depending on what they're looking for, they're stil good for the hobby as a whole. I'm guessing what 's good for the hobby eventually trickles down and translates into good things for the individual collector.

Another way to envigorate the hobby more might be to work it from the opposite end of the supply side by generating interest from a broader audience. Instead of getting push from the dealers, it would also be good to get some pull from the buying public. I think WOH and other shows like it play an important role in driving that effort to generate interest and demand on a "larger scale".

(Sometimes speaking my mind reveals that it is indeed sixth scale. So I found it best to keep my mouth shut sometimes.)

[nomelrw]

I support the One Sixth Scale freedom of speech. Since he generated all these replies this must be a good thing. At any rate this is clearly a case of collectors obsession. Take some figures out of the box and "devaluate them". You will appreciate them so much more as a product, toy, history etc.